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Post #1 made on 11/06/11 @ 6:19 pm
I'm so sorry everyone... :,(



(this is probably full of typos, as I have not had time to proofread it..)

I am so sad right now.. I'm even shaking..
..my beloved squiby.. it's like you have rotted from the inside out..

I'm so sorry everyone.. I can no longer trust this site and the new owners with my art..

I can't believe this is really happening..
I have always hated it when artists leave and delete all their art here...
I never thought I would do that...

I have been here for 5 years,
and I have loved it so much! You have all brought me so much happiness and joy..
I'm so sorry it have to end this way...




some time ago, I joined a new Adoptable site...
You will be able to find me and my adoptables there now..
Maxicanvas

And you can still find me on DeviantArt.



Everyone that has gotten a custom pet or is on my custom pets lists,
you can all get your custom pets as adoptables on Maxicanvas.

All of my art here will be removed/deleted.
This will take some time.. as I have made a lot..
sharing them again on maxicanvas will also take some time,
even though I had already started sharing them there long before all of this sh.. happened here.



I have always been very patient with the coders/owners of Squiby,
I have always said, they can use as much time they need on coding/fixing bugs/adding new features to the site itself.
It's their site and they can do what they want on this site.
I have always been very understanding of the fact that sometimes real life takes over, something happens
and you can't make time for fixing/working with the website.

but... I have absolutely No patience when it comes to them doing whatever they want with the art submitted here..
This is an Art sharing website! to share the art on this website..
the owners have no rights to the art and have no rights to use it on other websites, or using them in anyway on other websites.
the fact that they would even think that is really disrespectful to the Art and the Artists.

if this was even a bit of an option, then they would have had to create a contract that said
"all art submitted here is now ours and we can do what we want with it",
and everyone on here would have to agree to that contract before submitting or even being here, or even before joining the site.
there is no such contract, meaning that they have no rights to the art submitted here.
and if they had a contract like that, then I would never have agreed to it..



Even since when the new owners first took over this site, I was suspicious of their way of using art..
it often seemed like they would use are they probably did not have rights to use..

I should have seen it as a waring.. and I kind of did..
but I had hopes that it would work out if I just told them don't do this..

First it was the first layout on the site, it was so ugly.. and was full of art that did not seem like it was theirs to use.

Then it was the badges, the ones they uploaded first as examples looked kinda like images you could find on a "free to use images",
but it could also be that they were just take from somewhere..
it was also not possible to delete badges, so everyone was free to steal what ever art they felt like..
The Admin asked the owner about this, and was told that the same "no stealing" rule applied there too and that a delete button would be added.
..that was a year ago.. still no delete option.

then there was the new "big thing" the car adoptable site, ridies..
No one was too excited about that..
and as I feared then, it was the beginning of the end..

When the ridies site was up and running,
I could see that they had just taken all the code from squiby and modified it some.
all the art there.. looked really like it was just taken from google search..
I even found my own art there, a few of my badges, uploaded as a badge there by the owner.
They had not asked permission to use my art there and I had earlier said that I don't want anything to do with this site.


Then came the bubble background..
The bubble image used as a background on the main site of squiby itself..
it was not only ugly as hell.. it was so clearly stolen!
it had a water mark! partially removed! I could even tell where it was from..
it was from one of those stock photo website,
where all the images have watermarks and you have to pay to get the image without a watermark.
this clearly said that this was stolen, no dought..

I sent an angry mail to the owner, saying I do not want to be on an art site that steals art!
I got an apology, the owner blamed one code/designer, and gave an explanation for why the owner had been away.
I took it for good fish, and said okay, I believe you, but this must not happen again..
..if only I had taken the hint and got out of here then..
But I loved squiby too much and did not want to lose it..




..Now there is this auto-uploading crap.. this has been going on all along..

I should have left the site when keith sold it..
but I loved Squiby and trusted the new owners to do the right thing..




Thread with more info, and the timeline of what has happened.


The New Squiby owners has been taking my art and yours, and uploaded it to other websites without first asking me and everyone else for permission first..


...it's not just some user, saving our art on his own computer and using it elsewhere..
it the actual owner of the art site.. using bots to auto-upload the art submitted here to other websites..
probably trying promote the site... but that's NOT how you do it..
they didn't even ask for permission first.. just selfishly taking the art submitted and for free spreading it all over the pace..

I won the squiby logo contest.. that drawing is theirs, they own it, they can do whatever they want with it, that I knew and had no problems with..
they should have just used that image, the logo of the site, made a normal AD and paid to have the site advertised..

The Deviantart group.. it's a normal group, people was happy to share their art there themself, that was promoting the site.. and they didn't have to do anything..



First the owner of Squiby made this announcement,
Thread.
Telling about their DeviantArt group.

They also said, our art would be submitted there,
but that we could ask to have it removed.



I did not like this one bit.. it was disrespectful and they didn't ask for permission first..
but I could only see that Chemical_Lady was objecting to this..
seemingly being the only two not liking this, I thought I would just have to ask to have my own art removed from the DA group..


More and more auto-uploaded art got added to the DA group and I kept on asking to have my art removed..
I also noticed that a lot of stolen art got uploaded there too,
stolen art that had been upload here, but deleted by the Admins here, as is the rule here.
But there is no help to remove the stolen art here if it just gets restolen on the DA group..
I started commenting on them to have them removed too.
I noticed that not everything I asked to have removed was removed from the group..
an it seemed like a never ending task to ask to have the art removed.


I also didn't really like art being uploaded to facebook..
as I don't trust facebook with my art..
I thought, at least it's not a mass auto-uploading of adoptables like it is on DA..
but I did wish that it would stop too..


Then I just happen to check the tumblr page, linked to at the top here.
and I saw that the same kind of auto-uploading had been going on there too..
there had not been made any announcements about this, no one saying it would be uploaded there too.
I don't know tumblr too well and had no idea how to ask to have my art there removed..




More people started objecting to this auto-uploading of our art to other websites.
and I started to wonder if people had not been objecting before because they just didn't know this was going on..
I went through the list of auto-uploaded pets on DeviantArt and sent them all mails, telling them about it.
some people didn't mind, some got angry, one was really angry and immediately deleted all her adoptables here..



We started reporting the stolen images on DA and some on tumblr.
and we demanded that this would stop!
Hikanu suggested making protesting adoptables.


Then.. I found out that all the art auto-uploaded to DeviantArt.. that I asked to have removed..
it was not even really removed... they just hide it..

It's the DA user account, http://squibydotnet.deviantart.com/
that is used to bot upload the images from squiby,
and then bot submitted to the group.
When asked to remove the art, the art is only take out of the group,
but it's still on the profile itself..
http://squibydotnet.deviantart.com/search




looking at the time stamp "last online" on Chocolatefuge's profile,
it seemed like she got online everyday and should have seen our messages.

I wondered if she actually never was online and it was just a bot triggering the "last online".
either way, she was ignoring us now or she had been ignoring us for a very long time..


I sent a mail to chocolatefudge,
demanding that all the accounts on the other websites would be deactivated and that this would stop.
I gave her a weeks deadline.




..Today.. I find out that auto-uploading has also been going on on flickr..
under the username chocolatefudge, over 10 000 of our images has been auto-uploaded there..
there is no links to flickr here, no mention of this at all.. they just do it..




that.. that was just it for me.. I..
the one week deadline no longer stands for me..
I am done...
I no longer have any trust in this site and it's owners anymore..

I am so sorry everyone..


I have loved sharing my art with you all here, for 5 years..
You have said so many nice words to me that I will never forget..
You have all helped me become more social and believe in myself..
I loved this site so much.. it has been my favorite place for so long..
I thought I would never leave.. I thought this site would die and disappear before I would go..



You can now find me on DeviantArt and Maxicanvas.

goodbye Squiby..




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just keeping the list here for a bit, so that I know I got all the info I need before taking it away.


To do list



-purrpurr101,Info.

-harrietwrighht,Info. **

-Leafmane,Info, Info.*sh domestic* **

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-backtracingrabbit,Info. @

-kruszonka,Info, **

-Apricotpaw,Info,

-aymancat,Info.  **

-Sukiovic,Info,

-dacyandcoby123,Info,

-wolfheartmoon,Info,

-Felraen,Info,

-VampVixen,Info,

-XAllimac,Info,

-Dragonpup,Info,

-nkl93,Info,

-HanaImakura67,Info,

-JadeWolfbane,Info,

-Heartsong,Info,

-Lillyshadow,Info,

-SilverMeows,Info,

-Dream1125,Info,

-Dracowolfie,Info,

-Tauchawee,Info,

-uapingjockey,Info,

-sleeping_siren,Info,

-Christian891,Info,

-SodaWolfy,Info,

-WolfGuardianLunar,Info,

-PotatoPop09,Info,

-DaretoDream,Info,

-dkb02,Info,

-Sakura-Kuromi (DA),Info,

-tegatiger2012,Info, @, @, Domestic shorthaird.

-wishingFantasy,Info,

-AngelisNightfall,Info,

-Warriorcats1011,Info,

-alai2820,Info, Info, Info,

-soulblood,Info.

-MinecraftDivergent,Info. (shorthaired)

-Melly101,Info.

-ShadoWolf,Info.

-Maesara,Info. **

-SnickersKorbel,Info ,Info. Shorthaired.

-vetwannabe,Info First stage Dom.S

-CattyCat22,Info Domestic short.





On Hold

-Nevermore_22,Info.
-RockFish,Info.
-Minxingmaniac,Info. **
-sunshine127,Info. *No collar*
-horsenut6780,Info,
-PeafowlPen,Info.





Finished list



All Cat Spoilers

M- ketshi, Napoli.

M-,, Dewclaw, Princess and Old Grey.

M- smileygal3, Tully.

M- katcombs, Frost.

M- eclipse5254, Friday.

M- tooze8, Jasper.

M- Minou.x3, Minou.

M- blackdragonqueen, Harley.

M- BlackFlameVampire, Winston.

M- ksafalis, Shiva.

M- viabunny, Shadow.

M- sophiemarie197, Sophie.

M,- Leafeye, Filimon. and Gunya.

M- Stormy Nightwing, Huskysong.**

M- Howleen, Sorvass.

M- cjstart, Malcolm.

M- blackandredeevee, Patches.

M- WildfireBlizzard , Jazzy.

M- jojomade, Baby Bear.

M,- zanderwolf, Moon.

M- Vethalies, Schnurri.

M- Killix, Pyro.

M- MockingJay199, Sam.

M- SchoolWildcat96, Jake.

M- NativeWolf13, Annie.

M,- booklover789, Tuffy.

M- Ranshii, Tiger.

M- Armany, Noisette.

M- LunaLovitt, Ora.

M- Xaneas, Mimine.

M- Renegade4life, Toothless.

M- Nalina, Etoile.

M- vivalacathryn, Mikey.

M,- InuyashaWolf, Chato.

M- Skabyes, Negri.

M- RainbowNapalm, Chester.

M- Bluestar8, Creamsicle.

M- Qwertyho, Red Tail. **

M- Purrl, Sunny.

M- soulblood, Sparrowstar.

M- wolfyjr, Ginger.

M- Anieyu, Sulphur.

M- Shirak, Kiwi.









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Post #14 made on 11/11/11 @ 1:13 pm
Can I ask a question about breeding? OfflineNormal UserZeb_the_lizard
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Post #15 made on 11/11/11 @ 3:37 pm
Sure, what about it?

it is closed if thats what you're asking...
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Post #16 made on 11/13/11 @ 6:49 am
i also got a question about Breeding, but maybe is that the question of Zeb_the_lizard. wil it open Again? OfflineNormal Usermartijn1202
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Post #17 made on 11/13/11 @ 9:03 am
@martijn1202, The breeding thread Will open again :)
I Will open it when most of the bugs here have been sorted out,
Now the search dont work so I cant find them and I cant Edit pets to get the passwords.


Im not home right now, visiting my boyfriends dad.
Borowing an iPad to surf on ^^ its so Cool! Want one x3
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Post #18 made on 11/13/11 @ 11:36 am
My question is....How do we breed are pets? (I know I'm so stupid.) OfflineNormal UserZeb_the_lizard
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Post #19 made on 11/13/11 @ 3:51 pm
@Zeb_the_lizard ,
I have now filled in the breeding thread with its rules :)
So go read that and see if you understand it then.
If you still need help, send me a Mail.
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Post #20 made on 11/16/11 @ 4:10 am
:O When did the White Russian appear? xD See what happens when us easily confused people who hate change get, well, confused by changes. :P OfflineNormal Userblackdragonqueen
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